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== Finding Specific Railroad Frequencies==
 
A great place to start is the RRDB for your particular area. Sometimes, there is not any information to be had and this is where it can be fun!
 
  
 
If you live in the USA you can find all the railroad licenses in your area with a visit to the [http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/reports7/ FCC's website]
 
 
Next, select one of the '''Frequency (Range)''' queries and then enter '''M160.215''' and '''M161.565''' for the begin and end search frequencies.
 
 
For '''Service''' select '''Land Mobile - Private [LP]'''
 
 
For '''Radio Service''' select '''Industrial/Business Pool - Conventional [IG]'''
 
 
 
You can then download the results or search them and make a custom spreadsheet with only the fields you want and download it.
 
 
As always, be sure to submit any new information for inclusion in the RRDB!
 
 
If you don't find it here or in the database, feel free to post a message in the [http://www.radioreference.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=88 Railroad] forum on RadioReference
 
 
Amtrak routes and frequencies can be found on the [http://on-track-on-line.com/amtrak-freqs.shtml On Line On Track Amtrak] page
 
 
== VHF Frequencies==
 
Railroad radios display the transmit and receive frequency as AAR channel numbers. For example, these numbers will be referred to over-the-air as "1616" for AAR channel 16 (160.350) or "1180" for AAR channels 11 and 80 in full duplex use (Dispatch transmits on one channel and the train transmits on the other channel).
 
 
AAR Ch Frequency
 
02 159.810 Canada Only
 
03 159.930 Canada Only (Used by Trucking Companies in the US)
 
04 160.050 Canada Only (Used by Trucking Companies in the US)
 
05 160.185 Canada Only (Used by Trucking Companies in the US)
 
06 160.200 Canada Only (Used by Trucking Companies in the US)
 
07 160.215
 
08 160.230
 
09 160.245
 
10 160.260
 
11 160.275
 
12 160.290
 
13 160.305
 
14 160.320
 
15 160.335
 
16 160.350
 
17 160.365
 
18 160.380
 
19 160.395
 
20 160.410
 
21 160.425
 
22 160.440
 
23 160.455
 
24 160.470
 
25 160.485
 
26 160.500
 
27 160.515
 
28 160.530
 
29 160.545
 
30 160.560
 
31 160.575
 
32 160.590
 
33 160.605
 
34 160.620
 
35 160.635
 
36 160.650
 
37 160.665
 
38 160.680
 
39 160.695
 
40 160.710
 
41 160.725
 
42 160.740
 
43 160.755
 
44 160.770
 
45 160.785
 
46 160.800
 
47 160.815
 
48 160.830
 
49 160.845
 
50 160.860
 
51 160.875
 
52 160.890
 
53 160.905
 
54 160.920
 
55 160.935
 
56 160.950
 
57 160.965
 
58 160.980
 
59 160.995
 
60 161.010
 
61 161.025
 
62 161.040
 
63 161.055
 
64 161.070
 
65 161.085
 
66 161.100
 
67 161.115
 
68 161.130
 
69 161.145
 
70 161.160
 
71 161.175
 
72 161.190
 
73 161.205
 
74 161.220
 
75 161.235
 
76 161.250
 
77 161.265
 
78 161.280
 
79 161.295
 
80 161.310
 
81 161.325
 
82 161.340
 
83 161.355
 
84 161.370
 
85 161.385
 
86 161.400
 
87 161.415
 
88 161.430
 
89 161.445
 
90 161.460
 
91 161.475
 
92 161.490
 
93 161.505
 
94 161.520
 
95 161.535
 
96 161.550
 
97 161.565
 
-- 161.610 Shared with Marine (Existing railroad users are grandfathered)
 
 
== New VHF narrowband splinter frequencies ==
 
 
AAR Ch Frequency
 
98 160.2225
 
99 160.2375
 
100 160.2525
 
101 160.2675
 
102 160.2825
 
103 160.2975
 
104 160.3125
 
105 160.3275
 
106 160.3425
 
107 160.3575
 
108 160.3725
 
109 160.3875
 
110 160.4025
 
111 160.4175
 
112 160.4325
 
113 160.4475
 
114 160.4625
 
115 160.4775
 
116 160.4925
 
117 160.5075
 
118 160.5225
 
119 160.5375
 
120 160.5525
 
121 160.5675
 
122 160.5825
 
123 160.5975
 
124 160.6125
 
125 160.6275
 
126 160.6425
 
127 160.6575
 
128 160.6725
 
129 160.6875
 
130 160.7025
 
131 160.7175
 
132 160.7325
 
133 160.7475
 
134 160.7625
 
135 160.7775
 
136 160.7925
 
137 160.8075
 
138 160.8225
 
139 160.8375
 
140 160.8525
 
141 160.8675
 
142 160.8825
 
143 160.8975
 
144 160.9125
 
145 160.9275
 
146 160.9425
 
147 160.9575
 
148 160.9725
 
149 160.9875
 
150 161.0025
 
151 161.0175
 
152 161.0325
 
153 161.0475
 
154 161.0625
 
155 161.0775
 
156 161.0925
 
157 161.1075
 
158 161.1225
 
159 161.1375
 
160 161.1525
 
161 161.1675
 
162 161.1825
 
163 161.1975
 
164 161.2125
 
165 161.2275
 
166 161.2425
 
167 161.2575
 
168 161.2725
 
169 161.2875
 
170 161.3025
 
171 161.3175
 
172 161.3325
 
173 161.3475
 
174 161.3625
 
175 161.3775
 
176 161.3925
 
177 161.4075
 
178 161.4225
 
179 161.4375
 
180 161.4525
 
181 161.4675
 
182 161.4825
 
183 161.4975
 
184 161.5125
 
185 161.5275
 
186 161.5425
 
187 161.5575
 
 
 
== UHF Frequencies ==
 
 
Frequencies on the same line can be paired for possible full duplex or repeater use.  452.9375 is a common EOT device frequency in Canada.  457.9375 is a common EOT device frequency in the USA.
 
 
452.3250 / 457.3250
 
452.3750 / 457.3750
 
452.4250 / 457.4250
 
452.4750 / 457.4750
 
452.7750 / 457.7750
 
452.8250 / 457.8250
 
452.8750 / 457.8750
 
452.9000 / 457.9000
 
452.9125 / 457.9125 Telemetry
 
452.9250 / 457.9250 Remote Control/Remote Indicator
 
452.9375 / 457.9375 Telemetry/Remote Control/Remote Indicator
 
452.9500 / 457.9500 Remote Control/Remote Indicator
 
452.9625 / 457.9625 Telemetry/Remote Control/Remote Indicator
 
 
== Narrowbanding (Refarming) the Railroad Service ==
 
Many rumors have circulated regarding the [[refarming]] of the railroad radio band and whether or not people will be able to monitor it once the changes are made. First of all, don't worry... These changes will progress very slowly. There isn't going to be a point where everything changes in a day, or even a month. It will take years before the whole rail system adopts a totally new standard. Once it does, you will still be able to monitor it. The way you monitor it may change, but it will still be open.
 
 
The basis for these changes are the various mandates that the FCC has imposed for radio systems... Their overall goal is to reorganize the radio spectrum so there's more room for all of the wireless equipment being put into use today, and also to try and create more interoperability between various services. One of the ways they're creating more space, is by narrowing the channel spacing in different service bands by splitting them.
 
 
The original AAR railroad radio band has a 15 kHz spacing between each channel. Modern technology allows channels to be spaced much closer together now, which creates more channels in a much smaller amount of radio spectrum. The FCC mandates that new radio systems use a smaller 12.5 kHz spacing by 2013. They also want new radio systems to eventually be capable of an even smaller channel spacing, mandating that manufacturers make all new equipment capable of a 6.25 kHz spacing by 2011, and that end users of new systems use a 6.25 kHz spacing by 2018. The new railroad band plan shown below is the one that would be adopted for the first 12.5 kHz mandate by 2013. This plan does not require radios to be digital. However, due to technical limitations for the much tighter 6.25 kHz channel spacing that will eventually
 
happen, that plan will most likely require radios to be digital. It's this second new plan due in 2018 that has railroads experimenting with digital and trying to decide how exactly they will go about the change. Most radios being purchased now are capable of both analog and digital, or they're at least capable of being modified to digital.
 
 
So what will digital mean? For now it's hard to say exactly how it will all work. The most important thing to emphasize though, is that this will be a very slow change, and it will most likely NOT include any encryption on normal voice channels. For now, two digital protocols seem to be getting tested by the railroads and evaluated. The earliest one is [[APCO-25]] or 'P25'. This protocol is already widely in use around the US on various civil and private radio systems. However, Motorola has indicated that they don't seem to have much interest in the railroad industry at this point, due to the fact that they've discontinued both the railroad Spectra and Astro Spectra radio models. Also in the running for the new digital protocol for railroad radio is the Kenwood / Icom format called NXDN. This protocol is newer and proprietary to
 
Kenwood and Icom equipment. It's also cheaper to implement than P25. Having a proprietary digital protocol for the rail industry wouldn't be that much of a problem, because unlike civil services, the rail industry is fairly self contained. They don't need their system to be compatible with other services. It's been reported that the big roads have been testing not only P25 but also the NXDN protocol. Which one will be the winner is still up in the air; perhaps neither in the end. As of late 2008, some of the new radio equipment being fielded by the large roads is:
 
 
* Norfolk Southern: Kenwood TK-290 portables, unknown mobiles.
 
* CSX: Icom portables, Motorola mobiles and Kenwood portables.
 
* BNSF: Kenwood TK-290 & TK-2180 portables, some Motorolas, Kenwood TK-790 and 740 mobiles.
 
* UPRR: Kenwood TK-290 & TK-2180 portables.
 
 
Motorola no longer produces a dedicated 'clean cab' railroad radio, such as the Spectra or Astro Spectra. Motorola does have the P25 capable XTL2500 and XTL5000 mobiles, but these are not dedicated 'clean cab' style radios. There's basically three known 'clean cab' style radios other than the old Motorolas. They're produced by JEM, Wabtec (refurbished Motorolas), and GE (formerly Harmon).
 
 
Proceed to [[Narrowbanded Railroad Frequency Chart]]
 

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