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This article is for documenting [[DMR]] and [[MOTOTRBO]] questions for the [[BCD436HP]], [[BCD536HP]], [[SDS100]] and [[SDS200]] Uniden scanners. They all share the same version of [[Sentinel for the BCD436HP/BCD536HP/SDS100/SDS200|Sentinel]]
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This article is for documenting [[DMR]] and [[MOTOTRBO]] questions for the [[BCD436HP]], [[BCD536HP]], [[SDS100]] and [[SDS200]] Uniden scanners. They all share the same version of [[Sentinel for the BCD436HP/BCD536HP/SDS100/SDS200|Sentinel]]. ARC-536 and ProScan tips are also welcome here.
  
 
==Check / Update Your Firmware==
 
==Check / Update Your Firmware==
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* '''How do I update my firmware once I've purchased the key?'''
 
* '''How do I update my firmware once I've purchased the key?'''
 
**See [http://new.marksscanners.com/SDS/SDS%20Sentinel.shtml#toolbar Sentinel Menus and Toolbars] in the Easier to Read manual. Use the ''Update Menu''  
 
**See [http://new.marksscanners.com/SDS/SDS%20Sentinel.shtml#toolbar Sentinel Menus and Toolbars] in the Easier to Read manual. Use the ''Update Menu''  
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**See the [http://new.marksscanners.com/536/X36%20HP%20Sentinel.shtml#update%20firmware Update Firmware] section of the 436 / 536 Easier to Read manual.
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**For the SDS100 / SDS200, select ''Menu'' / ''Settings'' / ''E/Yes''.  Then select '''Upgrade'''
  
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* '''Where can I go with questions / problems with the upgrade?'''
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** Its always best to have the most current firmware. If you have questions, please post in the {{Forum|uniden-tech-support.248|Uniden Tech Support}}
  
<small> Thanks Easier to Read Manual</small>
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*<small> Thanks Easier to Read Manual for some of this detail</small>
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==Random Notes==
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*If you discover a new DMR system, you will need a dummy system to use Analyze / LCN Finder
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*If you are running in ID Search mode, you will need a dummy department if you wish to store it
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*Discovery does need a dummy department
  
 
==General / How To ==
 
==General / How To ==
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** This topic is discussed in the Uniden TWiki [http://info.uniden.com/twiki/bin/view/UnidenMan4/DigitalMobileRadioUpgrade#Programming_and_Using_DMR_and_Mo here]  
 
** This topic is discussed in the Uniden TWiki [http://info.uniden.com/twiki/bin/view/UnidenMan4/DigitalMobileRadioUpgrade#Programming_and_Using_DMR_and_Mo here]  
 
** See the {{Thread|uniden-forums.82|422525-dmr-help.html|DMR Help}} and [[Entering an Unknown MOTOTRBO system using Sentinel]]
 
** See the {{Thread|uniden-forums.82|422525-dmr-help.html|DMR Help}} and [[Entering an Unknown MOTOTRBO system using Sentinel]]
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** See the {{Thread|uniden-tech-support.248|436765-trying-to-find-program-a-dmr-system.html|Trying to find program a DMR System}}
 
** If you have further questions, view previous discussions or post them on the {{Forum|uniden-tech-support.248| Uniden Tech Support}}  
 
** If you have further questions, view previous discussions or post them on the {{Forum|uniden-tech-support.248| Uniden Tech Support}}  
  
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** Display Mode 2 - will show the Color Code.
 
** Display Mode 2 - will show the Color Code.
 
** Display Mode 3 - will show the slot.
 
** Display Mode 3 - will show the slot.
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* '''What is DCDM?'''
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** See the {{Thread|uniden-tech-support.248|433377-DMR-DCDM.html|What is DMR DCDM?}}
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* '''Does Close Call work on a DMR channel?'''
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**  It will work on the base station or repeater since there's a continuous carrier, but it won't work on subscriber units which transmit in 30ms bursts
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==Programming with Software==
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* FreeScan does not support programming the HP series of scanners, nor does it support DMR / MOTOTRBO programming.  Use Sentinel, [https://www.proscan.org ProScan] or [https://www.butelsoftware.com ARC-536] for this
  
  
 
==System Types==
 
==System Types==
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===DMR Simplex===
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* See the {{Thread|uniden-tech-support.248|436985-sds100-simplex-dmr.html|SDS100 Simplex DMR}}
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* See the {{Thread|uniden-tech-support.248|372188-dmr-simplex.html|DMR Simplex}}
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* See this {{Thread|uniden-software-discussion|340222-how-program-simplex-channel-no-repeater-dmr.html|How to Program a DMR Simplex Channel}}
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=== Conventional / One Frequency Trunk===
 
=== Conventional / One Frequency Trunk===
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; Conventional
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* If you wish to scan a DMR Conventional channel that says 'TG 16777215 (ALL TG)' in the database, program it as a conventional frequency. That will increase scan speed and will still allow you to hear everything on that channel.  <small> Thanks Joe Bearcat</small>
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; One Frequency Trunk
 
* See the {{Thread|uniden-forums.82|429193-i-am-needing-help-programming-dmr.html|Needing Help Programming DMR}}
 
* See the {{Thread|uniden-forums.82|429193-i-am-needing-help-programming-dmr.html|Needing Help Programming DMR}}
 
* See the {{Thread|uniden-scanners|389050-dmr-single-channel-programming.html|DMR Single Channel Programming}}
 
* See the {{Thread|uniden-scanners|389050-dmr-single-channel-programming.html|DMR Single Channel Programming}}
 
* See the {{Thread|uniden-scanners|336112-fun-with-dmr-programming-a-single-channel-dmr-system.html|Fun with DMR Programming A Single Channel DMR System}}
 
* See the {{Thread|uniden-scanners|336112-fun-with-dmr-programming-a-single-channel-dmr-system.html|Fun with DMR Programming A Single Channel DMR System}}
* See this {{Thread|uniden-software-discussion|340222-how-program-simplex-channel-no-repeater-dmr.html|How to Program a DMR Simplex Channel (no repeater)}} for a discussion on this question
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* See the {{Thread|uniden-tech-support.248|433284-dmr-one-frequency-not-rx-when-scanning.html|DMR One Frequency Not Rx When Scanning}}
 
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* See the {{Thread|uniden-tech-support.248|436806-uniden-sds100-one-frequency-trunk-question.html|SDS100 One Frequency Trunk Question}}
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* See the {{Thread|uniden-tech-support.248|449147-conventional-channel-dmr-vs-dmr-one-frequency-reception.html|Conventional Channel DMR vs One Frequency Reception}}
  
=== Capacity Max / Connect Plus ===
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=== Capacity Type and Connect Plus ===
* '''If the system is in the database as a Capacity Max or Connect Plus system, where can I find the color code, LCN and LSN?'''
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* '''If the system is in the database as a MOTOTRBO Capacity Max or Connect Plus system, where can I find the color code, LCN and LSN?'''
 
[[Image:Site Freq Table CapMax.jpg|Site Frequency Table|right]]
 
[[Image:Site Freq Table CapMax.jpg|Site Frequency Table|right]]
 
# Go to the database listing
 
# Go to the database listing
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===Hytera Systems===
 
===Hytera Systems===
 
* See the {{Thread|uniden-scanners.82|428729-hytera-dmr-xpt-question.html|Hytera XPT DMR Question}}
 
* See the {{Thread|uniden-scanners.82|428729-hytera-dmr-xpt-question.html|Hytera XPT DMR Question}}
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* See the {{Thread|the-uniden-tavern.254|450046-help-with-xpt-lcn-found-but-some-outstanding.html|Help with XPT LCN found but some outstanding}}
 
* '''How Can I find the correct LCN to use in Uniden scanners for a Hytera System?'''
 
* '''How Can I find the correct LCN to use in Uniden scanners for a Hytera System?'''
 
[[Image:Site Frequency Table.jpg|Site Frequency Table|right]]
 
[[Image:Site Frequency Table.jpg|Site Frequency Table|right]]
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# On the next form, go all the way to the bottom and look on the left for the '''Site Frequency Table'''. An example is shown on the right
 
# On the next form, go all the way to the bottom and look on the left for the '''Site Frequency Table'''. An example is shown on the right
 
# Take the channel number, reduce it by 1 and divide the result by 2. This will be the LCN that Uniden scanners will recognize
 
# Take the channel number, reduce it by 1 and divide the result by 2. This will be the LCN that Uniden scanners will recognize
 
  
 
===Tier III (Trunking) ===
 
===Tier III (Trunking) ===
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**Note:  This will also work with other DMR types that have a defined bandplan
 
**Note:  This will also work with other DMR types that have a defined bandplan
  
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* '''The SDS100 seems to miss T3 transmissions I can hear on other equipment'''
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** Try adding a System Hold time of 2-4 seconds. It will require some experimentation to find the right value
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* '''How can I program an I-Call under T3?'''
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** See the {{Thread|uniden-tech-support.248|442125-i-calls-dmrt3.html|I calls DMR T3}}
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==YouTube  Videos==
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; Firmware Install
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z0a5SFkOVY&ab_channel=Reviews%2CTeardowns%2CandMore Install DMR Upgrade on BCD536HP]
  
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; Operations
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeMAd78BhFQ&ab_channel=BoyAndAScanner Finding DMR System Frequencies on the SDS100]
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mg1H3tOxy-s&ab_channel=BoyAndAScanner SDS100- Fast DMR Programming with Sentinel]
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* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkJCIRWesOs&ab_channel=BoyAndAScanner SDS100-How to Discover and Program Capacity Plus Systems]
 
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* Return to [[BCD436HP and BCD536HP Page 2]]
 
* Return to [[BCD436HP and BCD536HP Page 2]]

Revision as of 21:12, 22 January 2023

This article is for documenting DMR and MOTOTRBO questions for the BCD436HP, BCD536HP, SDS100 and SDS200 Uniden scanners. They all share the same version of Sentinel. ARC-536 and ProScan tips are also welcome here.

Check / Update Your Firmware

  • How do I check what version firmware I have in my scanner?
    • Go to Menu / Settings then E / Yes
    • Select See Scanner Info
  • How Can I Add DMR MOTOTRBO to my scanner?
    • Go to my.uniden.com and purchase a key
  • How do I update my firmware once I've purchased the key?
    • See Sentinel Menus and Toolbars in the Easier to Read manual. Use the Update Menu
    • See the Update Firmware section of the 436 / 536 Easier to Read manual.
    • For the SDS100 / SDS200, select Menu / Settings / E/Yes. Then select Upgrade
  • Where can I go with questions / problems with the upgrade?
  • Thanks Easier to Read Manual for some of this detail

Random Notes

  • If you discover a new DMR system, you will need a dummy system to use Analyze / LCN Finder
  • If you are running in ID Search mode, you will need a dummy department if you wish to store it
  • Discovery does need a dummy department

General / How To


  • Can I import DMR data from the FCC database?



  • Why won't my scanner receive DMR on Slot 1 and or Slot 2
    • Try reversing Slot numbers compared to System's Slot numbering.


  • On DMR I can't see the Flavor Type, Color Code or Slot
    • Display Mode 1 - will show the flavor (CON, CAP, XPT, etc).
    • Display Mode 2 - will show the Color Code.
    • Display Mode 3 - will show the slot.



  • Does Close Call work on a DMR channel?
    • It will work on the base station or repeater since there's a continuous carrier, but it won't work on subscriber units which transmit in 30ms bursts

Programming with Software

  • FreeScan does not support programming the HP series of scanners, nor does it support DMR / MOTOTRBO programming. Use Sentinel, ProScan or ARC-536 for this


System Types

DMR Simplex


Conventional / One Frequency Trunk

Conventional
  • If you wish to scan a DMR Conventional channel that says 'TG 16777215 (ALL TG)' in the database, program it as a conventional frequency. That will increase scan speed and will still allow you to hear everything on that channel. Thanks Joe Bearcat
One Frequency Trunk

Capacity Type and Connect Plus

  • If the system is in the database as a MOTOTRBO Capacity Max or Connect Plus system, where can I find the color code, LCN and LSN?
Site Frequency Table
  1. Go to the database listing
  2. Click on a site name under Name
  3. On the next form, go all the way to the bottom and look on the left for the Site Frequency Table. An example is shown on the right


Hytera Systems

Site Frequency Table
  1. If it's in the database, go to the frequency listing
  2. Click on a site name under Name
  3. On the next form, go all the way to the bottom and look on the left for the Site Frequency Table. An example is shown on the right
  4. Take the channel number, reduce it by 1 and divide the result by 2. This will be the LCN that Uniden scanners will recognize

Tier III (Trunking)

  • The SDS100 seems to miss T3 transmissions I can hear on other equipment
    • Try adding a System Hold time of 2-4 seconds. It will require some experimentation to find the right value

YouTube Videos

Firmware Install
Operations

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