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== Overview ==
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The current 1999 SCANDATA.FAQ article (updatd by WJP in 2000) was originally produced by Bill Cheek of COMMtronics Engineering in 1996. 
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Bill Cheek was a scanner enthusist and author of several books and articles on the hobby.  This article was a compilation of the various aspects of the scanner hobby dealing with [[discriminator output]] or baseband audio; explainting what it was, how to use it to decode a variety of signals, where to find it in a number of scanners of the day and also how to identify the various chips that it might appear on if your scanner was not listed. 
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It also explains the use of a and how to construct a 2-level FSK interface (data slicer) and a 4-level FSK interface.  Note that some of the parts used and specified in the instructions may no longer be avaialable; however, these circuits have been updated several times and can be found with specifications of currently available parts in several places on the WWW including the [[Data Slicers]] article in this Wiki.
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== Revisions ==
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As this article, in its native text form, is a bit lenghty, we have broken it up into natural divisions so that it will more easily fit with the Wiki style of articles.  Please note that we are leaving the text of the article intact in its entirety, but are dividing it up into logical sections. Also please note that the various URL's supplied in the article are probably not valid anymore as Bill Cheek died in 2000.
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== SCANDATA FAQ Article ==
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=== Introduction ===
 
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Mar 27, 1999      SCANDATA.FAQ       03/27/1999
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Mar 27, 1999      SCANDATA_faq       03/27/1999
 
Updated 09/23/2000  WJP
 
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       following additional FAQs:
 
       following additional FAQs:
  
1.  Scanner Modifications FAQ:  SCANMODS.FAQ
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1.  Scanner Modifications FAQ:  SCANMODS_faq
2.  Scanner Data Decoder FAQ:  SCANDATA.FAQ <--- This FAQ
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2.  Scanner Data Decoder FAQ:  SCANDATA_faq <--- This FAQ
3.  Scanner Performance FAQ:    SCANPERF.FAQ
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3.  Scanner Performance FAQ:    SCANPERF_faq
4.  Scanner S-Meter FAQ:        SCANSMTR.FAQ
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4.  Scanner S-Meter FAQ:        SCANSMTR_faq
5.  Scanner Radios FAQ:        SCANRADS.FAQ
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5.  Scanner Radios FAQ:        SCANRADS_faq
6.  4-Level FSK Decoder FAQ:      4LFSK.FAQ
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6.  4-Level FSK Decoder FAQ:      4LFSK_faq
7.  Administrative FAQ:            ADMIN.FAQ
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7.  Administrative FAQ:            ADMIN_faq
  
 
You can grab the latest of any of my FAQs directly from my
 
You can grab the latest of any of my FAQs directly from my
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Bill Cheek's Scanner Data Decoding
 
Bill Cheek's Scanner Data Decoding
 
Frequently Asked Questions File
 
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=== Contents ===
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01: What is a 'Discriminator Output' and 'baseband audio'?
 
02: How can I find the Discriminator Output in my scanner?
 
03: How do I connect to the Discriminator Output?
 
04: How do I build or acquire a SIMPLE decoder interface?
 
05: How do I build or acquire a BETTER decoder interface?
 
06: So how do I decode digital data from the airwaves?
 
07: How can I decode CTCSS, DPL, and DTMF from the airwaves?
 
08: Is it possible to "TrunkTrack" without a TrunkTracker?
 
09: What if I don't want to build my own Data Decoder Interface?
 
  
 
Questions and Answers
 
Questions and Answers
  
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* [[scandata_faq_q1 | Q1]]: What is a 'Discriminator Output' and 'baseband audio'?
01: What is a 'Discriminator Output' and 'baseband audio'?
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* [[scandata_faq_q2 | Q2]]: How can I find the Discriminator Output in my scanner?
 
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* [[scandata_faq_q3 | Q3]]: How do I connect to the Discriminator Output?
There is a growing interest in tapping the baseband audio
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* [[scandata_faq_q4 | Q4]]: How do I build or acquire a SIMPLE decoder interface?
out of various scanners for decoding of a variety of
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* [[scandata_faq_q5 | Q5]]: How do I build or acquire a BETTER decoder interface?
esoteric signals, including CTCSS, SCA, FSK, RTTY, FAX,
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* [[scandata_faq_q6 | Q6]]: So how do I decode digital data from the airwaves?
Pager data, and trunked system control data, etc.
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* [[scandata_faq_q7 | Q7]]: How can I decode CTCSS, DPL, and DTMF from the airwaves?
 
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* [[scandata_faq_q8 | Q8]]: Is it possible to "TrunkTrack" without a TrunkTracker?
By and large, such signals cannot be taken from TAPE REC
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* [[scandata_faq_q9 | Q9]]: What if I don't want to build my own Data Decoder Interface?
jacks, headphone jacks, and EXT SPEAKER jacks because of the
 
voice-band filters that are between the signal source and
 
these output jacks.
 
 
 
Therefore, it is necessary to tap the wider "baseband audio"
 
directly at the output of the NFM discriminator chip in your
 
scanner. This is the first step to successful data decoding
 
from the airwaves.
 
 
 
 
 
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02: How can I find the Discriminator Output in my scanner?
 
 
 
Table 1 shows a list of scanners, the discriminator chip(s)
 
used in the scanner, circuit symbols of those chips, and the
 
baseband audio (discriminator output) pin.
 
 
 
If your scanner isn't listed in Table 1, then refer to Table
 
2 to find its discriminator chip. The chips listed in Table
 
2 are all known Discriminators used in scanners and wide
 
coverage receivers.
 
 
 
Between Tables 1 and 2, you should be able to find the NFM
 
discriminator and its output pin for any reasonably modern
 
scanner.
 
 
 
Corrections and  additions to these lists are requested. See
 
my email and other addresses at the end of this file.
 
 
 
TABLE 1: SCANNER NFM DISCRIMINATOR CHIPS & PINS
 
Updated  03/27/99  09/23/00
 
 
 
                DISCR/DET        CKT    BASEBAND
 
SCANNER        CHIP TYPE      SYMBOL  AUDIO PIN
 
==============  ==============  =======  =========
 
unknown        MPS5071        n/a        9
 
AR-1000        TA-7787AF      IC-4      9
 
AR-2002        MC-3357P        IC-4      9
 
AR-2500     TA-7761P        IC-13      9
 
AR-3000        MC-3357P        ?          9
 
AR-800          MC-3361N        IC-200    9
 
AR-900          MC-3361N        IC-201    9
 
AR-950          MC-3361N        IC-201    9
 
AR-8000 NFM    TK10489M or-85M U1        11
 
AR-8000 WFM/AM  TA7792F        U3        8
 
BC-20/20        NB5310-1        ?          9 *
 
BC-60XLT-1     MC3361BD   IC-1 9
 
BC-70XLT        LSC1359P        IC-1      9 *
 
BC-80XLT        MC3361B0        IC-101    9
 
BC-100XL        MC-3359P        IC-1      10
 
BC-100XLT      TK-10421M-2    IC-401    11
 
BC-120XLT     MC3361BD   IC-1 9
 
BC-140XLT      MC-3359P        IC-1      10 *
 
BC-200XLT      TK-10421M-2    IC-401    11
 
BC-205XLT      TK-10421M-2    IC-401    11
 
BC-210          SC8780P/MC3357P IC-2      9
 
BC-220          SC8780P/MC3357P IC-2      9
 
BC-220XLT      MC3361BD        IC-1      9 *
 
BC-235XLT      MC3361CDR2      IC-2      9
 
BC-244CLT     MC3361CDR2   IC-101 9
 
BC-245XLT     MC3361CDR2   IC-2 9
 
BC-248CLT     MC3361CDR2   IC-101 9
 
BC-250          SC8780P/MC3357P IC-3      9
 
BC-350A        NJM-3359D-A    IC-3      10
 
BC-400XLT      NJM-3359D-A    IC-1      10
 
BC-560XLT      NJM-3359D-A    IC-1      10
 
BC-700A        NJM-3359D-A    IC-3      10
 
BC-760XLT      NJM-3359D-A    IC-2      10
 
BC-780XLT     MC3371D   IC-6 9
 
BC-800XLT      MC-3359P        IC-1      10
 
BC-855XLT      TK-10421M-2    IC-401    11
 
BC-890XLT      NJM-3359D-A    IC-3      10
 
BC-895XLT      MC3371D        IC-3      9
 
BC-950XLT      NJM-3359D-A    IC-2      10
 
BC-2500XLT      TK-10930VTL    IC-201    12-FM  13-AM
 
BC-3000 NFM/AM  TK-10930V      IC-202    12-NFM 13-AM
 
BC-3000 WFM    TK-10489M      IC-203    11
 
BC-8500XLT      MC-3361BP      IC-9      9
 
BC-9000XLT      MC3361B0        IC-8      9
 
BC-9000XLT WFM  TK10489-MTL    IC-9      11
 
BC-9000XLT AM  LA1600A        IC7        8 or 9 (?)
 
BCT-7          MC3361BD        IC-2      9
 
HX-1000        TK-10420        U-201      9
 
ICF-SC1PC      TA3116FN        IC-401    9
 
ICF-SC1        TA3116FN        IC-401    9
 
Icom IC-2SRA    MC-3372          ?        9 *
 
Icom R-1 NFM    TK-10487  DET-A IC-1 11
 
Icom R-1 WFM    TA-7787AF DET-B IC-1 9
 
Icom R100 NFM  MC3357P       9 (Near Bottom of radio)
 
Icom R7100 Said to be "top of R230 on main PCB"  *
 
MR-8100        NJM-3359D-A    IC-3      10
 
MX-5000        MC-3357P        IC-4      9
 
MX-7000        MC-3357P        IC-4      9
 
Maxtrac (Mot)  79G05 QLMD9035 6 (Behind the channel-up button)
 
PRO-2002        MC-3357P        IC-101    9
 
PRO-2003        MC-3357P        IC-104    9
 
PRO-2004 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2      9 (TP4)
 
PRO-2004 WFM    KB4419A        IC-1      6 (TP3)
 
PRO-2005 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2      9 (TP2)
 
PRO-2005 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1      10 (TP1)
 
PRO-2006 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2      9 (TP2)
 
PRO-2006 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1      10 (TP1)
 
PRO-2011        TK-10420        IC-1      9
 
PRO-2020        MC-3357P        IC-101    9
 
PRO-2021        TK-10420        IC-2      9
 
PRO-2022        MC-3361N        IC-1      9
 
PRO-2023        NJM-3359D-A      ?      10
 
PRO-2024        MC-3361N        IC-2      9
 
PRO-2025        NJM-3359D-A    IC-1      10
 
PRO-2026        NJM-3359D-A    IC-7      10
 
PRO-2027        MC-3361N        IC-2      9
 
PRO-2028        NJM-3359D-A    IC-2      10
 
PRO-2030        NJM-3359D-A    IC-3      10
 
PRO-2032     MC-3361        IC-2      9 (TP5)
 
PRO-2035 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2      9 (TP2)
 
PRO-2035 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1      10 (TP1)
 
PRO-2038        NJM-3359DA      IC-3      10
 
PRO-2039 NFM    KA3361   IC-2   ( use TP6)
 
PRO-2040        MC3361BP        IC-2      9
 
PRO-2041        MC3361N        IC-301    9  *
 
PRO-2042 NFM/AM TK-10420        IC-2      9 (TP2)
 
PRO-2042 WFM    KA2243N/HA12413 IC-1      10 (TP1)
 
PRO-2048     MC3361CDR2   ? 9
 
PRO-2050        MC3361CDR2      IC-2      9  *
 
PRO-2052     MC3361CDR2   IC-2 9
 
PRO-2067     KA3361BD/-CD/-ED IC-301 9
 
PRO-23          MC-3361BD      IC-1      9
 
PRO-24          MC3361BP        IC-2      9 *
 
PRO-26 NFM/AM  TK-10930V      IC-14    12-NFM 13-AM
 
PRO-26 WFM      TK-10489M      IC-16    11
 
PRO-31          TK-10420        IC-1      9
 
PRO-32          TK-10420        IC-101    9
 
PRO-34          TK-10420        IC-101    9
 
PRO-35          TK-10421M-2    IC-401    11
 
PRO-36          TK-10420        IC-101    9
 
PRO-37          TK-10420        IC-101    9 (TP103)
 
PRO-38          MC-3359P        IC-1      10
 
PRO-39          MC-3361N        IC-201    9
 
PRO-41          MC-3359P        IC-1      10
 
PRO-42          MC-3361N        IC-2      9
 
PRO-43          TK-10427/-10420 IC-301    9
 
PRO-44          MC-3361N        IC-201    9
 
PRO-46          TK-10421M-3LT  IC-401    11
 
PRO-49          MC3361BP        IC-2      9
 
PRO-51          MC3361BD        IC-1      9
 
PRO-60          TA31136FN      IC-301    9
 
PRO-62          KA3361          IC-301    9  *
 
PRO-64          MC3361N        IC-301    9
 
PRO-66          MC3361N        IC-2      9 (TP3) *
 
PRO-71     MC3361BD   IC-1 9
 
PRO-74     MC3361CDR2   IC-2 9
 
PRO-79     KA3361CD/-ED   IC-3 9
 
PRO-89     KA3361CD/-ED   IC-4 9
 
PRO-90          MC3361CDR2      IC-2      9
 
PRO-91          MC3361CDR2      IC-2      9
 
PRO-92     KA3361BD/-CD   IC-301 9
 
PRO-94          MC3361CDR2      IC-2      9
 
R-1600          NJM-3359D-A    IC-2      10
 
R-4030          TK-10421M-2    IC-401    11
 
SR-15          TK-10421D-2    IC-1      9
 
StandardCCR708A TK-10420D   Q602      9 *
 
TurboScan 2    3130-6056-502  U-201    10 or 16
 
WiNRADiO  NFM  MC-3372D        U2        9 TP20
 
WiNRADiO AM/WFM TA-7640AP      U5        9 TP29
 
WiNRADiO  SSB  LM324M          U6        1
 
Yaesu FRG-9600  MC-3357P        ?          9 *
 
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* Not personally verified by me
 
 
 
 
 
    TABLE 2
 
DISCRIM    OUTPUT
 
CHIP        PIN
 
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KA3361        9
 
MC3357P        9
 
MC3359P      10
 
MC3361        9
 
MC3371        9
 
MC3372D        9
 
MPS5071        9
 
NJM3359DA    10
 
TA3116FN      9
 
TA7640AP      9
 
TA7761P        9
 
TA7787AF      9
 
TA7792F        8
 
TK10420        9
 
TK10421D      9
 
TK10421M      11
 
TK10427        9
 
TK10485M      11
 
TK10487      11
 
TK10489M      11
 
TK10930V      12
 
CXA1111N      21 AM/WFM Only
 
HA12413        9 WFM Only
 
KA2243N        9 WFM Only
 
KB4419A        6 WFM Only
 
 
 
Once you locate the discriminator in your scanner, you have
 
to make its output conveniently available on the exterior
 
chassis, much like a headphone or tape recorder jack.
 
 
 
Figure 1 below shows how to determine the pin numbering
 
system for most integrated circuits.  Looking at the marking
 
side of the chip, there is either a notch or nook at one
 
end, and/or an embedded "dot" off to one side at one end.
 
The notch, nook, or dot signifies the end that starts with
 
Pin #1 and ends with whatever the highest numbered pin
 
happens to be.  Most IC's have 8, 14, 16, or 18 pins.
 
 
 
                  FIGURE 1
 
        TYPICAL NFM IC CHIP PINOUT
 
                                                NFM DISCR
 
          16 15 14 13 12 11 10  9    10uF/16v  Baseband
 
          |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |----+[|------> Audio Out
 
        +------------------------+
 
        |                        |  /-------> Ground
 
        |        TOP VIEW        |  |
 
  Notch  \          LABEL        |  |
 
        /  Dot    SIDE          |  ^
 
        | O                      | Scanner
 
        |                        |  Ground
 
        +------------------------+
 
          |  |  |  |  |  |  |  |
 
          1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8
 
 
 
NOTE: Figure 1 shows the baseband audio tap on Pin 9,
 
      though the pin number will vary from one chip
 
      to the next.
 
 
 
 
 
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03: How do I connect to the Discriminator Output?
 
 
 
HOOKUP PROCEDURE
 
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If you need the raw NFM Discriminator baseband audio signal
 
for external purposes, the best way to access it is via a
 
jack installed in a convenient, unobtrusive location on the
 
scanner. Use Figure 1 as a general guide.
 
 
 
1A  BASE SCANNERS: Install an RCA or other jack in a desired
 
    place on the scanner's external case, typically the rear
 
    panel.
 
 
 
1B  HANDHELD SCANNERS: If you can find the space, use a
 
    standard monaural 1/8" phone jack or a 3/32" mini phone
 
    jack.  Some scanners are so cramped inside that even
 
    these won't fit. In that case a strip of 3 pinline
 
    sockets can be melted into the plastic case and wires
 
    soldered to the inside protrusions.
 
 
 
    The middle pinline socket is not connected to anything;
 
    it's just there as strength and support for the pinline
 
    plug you make, with the shield ground soldered to one
 
    end and the audio- center soldered to the other end:
 
 
 
    GND---o o o---NFM DSCR (audio)
 
 
 
    "Break-apart" pinline plugs/sockets are available from
 
    Mouser, DigiKey, and Hosfelt.
 
 
 
    Digi-Key:  p/n A208-ND          (800) 344-4539
 
    Hosfelt:  p/n 21-274          (800) 524-6464
 
    Mouser:    p/n 151-5520/5530    (800) 346-6873
 
 
 
    These little puppies are good for a lot of hacker needs,
 
    so get a supply!
 
 
 
2.  Connect the shell or outer frame part of the jack to
 
    scanner chassis ground.  (Use one end socket for pinline
 
    connections)
 
 
 
3.  Connect the (+) leg of a 10-uF tantalum capacitor (Radio
 
    Shack #272-1436) to the Discriminator output Pin. (Capacitor
 
    should be tantalum, but can vary in value from 2.2-uF to
 
    10-uF at a voltage rating of 16-35 vdc.)
 
 
 
4.  Connect the center conductor of a shielded coax (RG-174,
 
    etc) or shielded mic cable to the (-) leg of the
 
    capacitor. NOTE: if the distance from the NFM tap to the
 
    jack is less than 3", then a single unshielded hookup
 
    wire will do fine.
 
 
 
5.  Connect the shield of the cable at this end to a nearby
 
    PCB ground trace or spot.
 
 
 
6.  Connect the center conductor of the other end of this
 
    cable (or single hookup wire) to the center or hot lug
 
    of the jack.
 
 
 
7.  Connect the shield of the cable at that end to the
 
    ground lug of the jack.
 
 
 
8.  Fabricate or buy a shielded patch cable with one end to
 
    mate with the new jack on the rear of the scanner at
 
    that end....and the other end to mate with whatever jack
 
    is on the tape recorder, processor, decoder, or whatever
 
    device is to be connected at the other end.
 
 
 
Now you are ready to connect a data decoder interface to the
 
baseband audio output jack. See Figure 1 above.
 
 
 
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04: How do I build or acquire a simple decoder interface circuit?
 
 
 
If you want to decode trunk control, MDT, some pager, fax and/or
 
other digital signals, you will need to build or buy a simple
 
2-Level FSK Interface to go between the NFM Discriminator/
 
Baseband Audio of the scanner and a standard PC serial port.
 
 
 
See Question #5 for a more sophisticated 4-Level FSK Interface.
 
 
 
  If you are not capable of building your own, or if you
 
  don't have the time to mess with it, I can supply either
 
  a Kit of all essential parts and detailed instructions,
 
  and you build it yourself, OR I can supply an  assembled/
 
  tested Decoder Interface, built inside a DB-25 shell and
 
  connector with a 3 ft shielded cable terminated with an
 
  RCA plug.  See Question #9 for details.
 
 
 
The DB-25 shell connects directly to a DB-25 comport on the
 
PC, or, if your comports are DB-9's, you can get a
 
DB25-to-DB9 adapter for it. You should, however, be able to
 
make your own following the below instructions.
 
 
 
This is a tried and true Data Interface circuit that's good
 
for everything we've tried, including a wide variety of
 
scanners. External power is not required.  This circuit
 
draws its power from the comport. It is similar to the
 
"Hamcom" and "data slicer" interfaces, but is optimized for
 
more scanners and more applications.
 
 
 
2-LEVEL DATA DECODER INTERFACE SCHEMATIC DIAGRAM
 
Copyright (c) 1998 Bill Cheek  <Revised 12/04/98>
 
 
 
              Note 4                              COM2
 
                                                  Computer
 
                                                Serial Port
 
Scanner  |<------circuit----------------->|      DB25    DB9
 
                                                ====    ===
 
Note                      o----o--|<--------o----->20 DTR  4
 
5    Note 1            |    | 1N4148    |
 
NFM    10-uF        |\  |    o--|<--------|--o--> 4 RTS  7
 
>-----+|[------o----|2 \ |    |            |  |
 
DSCR            |    |    \    o--+|[-->>>  |  |  Note 9
 
        100k    |    |LM  7 \    10-uF    | |
 
>--o--/\/\/----o    |741  6 >----------o---|--|--> 5 CTS  8
 
GND |                |      /          |  |  |
 
    o--/\/\/--o------|3  4/ Note 2      |  |  |
 
    |  3.3k  |      |  / |            |  |  |
 
    | Note 8  |      |/  |    Note 3  |  |  |
 
    |        o-----------|----/\/\/----o  |  |
 
    |                    |    100k        |  |
 
    |                    |                |  |
 
    o---------------------|-----------------|--|--> 7 Gnd  5
 
    |                    |                |  |
 
    |                    o-------->|-------o  | o-<2 TxD  3
 
    |            10-uF    |      1N4148        | |
 
    o-------------+|[-----o-------->|----------o |
 
    |                                            |
 
    |      Circuit                              |
 
    o--->>>Ground    o--------------------------o
 
    |                |
 
- -|- - - - - - - - -|- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 
    |  o-------------o
 
    |  |
 
    |  |      Optional for TrunkFollower
 
    |  |      Control of a second scanner
 
    ^  ^      (See Note 10 and Q&A #8)
 
  Gnd  RxD
 
    COM3
 
  or other
 
  port for Trunk
 
  Follower control
 
 
 
LEGEND:
 
 
 
    |
 
  --o-- = soldered connection/junction
 
 
 
    --o  = turn of the trace in the drawing
 
      |
 
 
 
  --|-- = crossover (no connection)
 
    +|[ = capacitor, polarized (note the +)
 
      >| = diode (anode->|-cathode)
 
      |< = diode (cathode-|<-anode)
 
-/\/\/- = resistor
 
  -->>> = ground
 
 
 
NOTES:
 
1.  Use tantalum capacitors, +|[ polarity as shown
 
 
 
2.  Radio Shack's LM-741 op-amp  works fine. Others might not!
 
 
 
3.  Use 1/4 or 1/8 watt resistors to conserve space
 
 
 
4.  Build circuit on a trimmed and fitted piece of perf
 
    board inside a DB-25 shell for max efficiency and space
 
    savings. DB-25 connects to PC's comport and a shielded
 
    cable from the scanner goes to the input; shield is
 
    ground and center is audio.
 
 
 
    Hi-res laser printed Instruction Sets available with precise
 
    schematics, drawings, perfboard layout, graphics, wiring,
 
    and solder points. Inquire:  bcheek@cts.com  or see:
 
 
 
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bcheek/decode.htm
 
 
 
5.  Many handheld scanners have no space to install a phone
 
    jack for the NFM Discriminator Output.  For such tight
 
    spaces a strip of 3 pinline sockets can be melted into
 
    the plastic case and wires soldered to the inside
 
    protrusions. The middle pinline socket is not connected
 
    to anything; it's just there as strength and support
 
    for the pinline plug you make, with the shield ground
 
    soldered to one end and the audio-center soldered to
 
    the other end:
 
 
 
    GND---o o o---NFM DSCR (audio)
 
 
 
6.  For base scanners, install a female RCA jack on rear
 
    panel.
 
 
 
7.  For handheld scanners where there is space, use a 3/32"
 
    mini or a 1/8" standard monaural phone plug.
 
 
 
8.  3.3k is an optimized value for most scanners.  If the
 
    baseband audio output measures less than 0.350-V AC, with a
 
    voltmeter set to AC-volts at a 1v range, you should decrease
 
    the 3.3k resistor to 2.2k, or even 1k if if the measurement
 
    is under 0.250v AC.
 
 
 
    I measured 0.150v AC out of the baseband audio tap in a
 
    Sony ICF-SC1PC handheld scanner. The required resistor
 
    from U1 Pin 3 to ground worked out to 1k.
 
 
 
    The NFM baseband audio signal of most scanners should
 
    show 0.400v AC or higher, in which case the 3.3k resistor
 
    is just right.
 
 
 
9.  Connect the interface to a comport on the PC.  Plug the
 
    input cable in to the scanner's NFM Discriminator
 
    Output Jack.  Tune to a desired signal and run the
 
    decoder software of your choice.
 
 
 
10.  If you are interested in using the "data decode"
 
    scanner to control or "TrunkFollow" a second scanner,
 
    then run a pair of wires off the Data Decoder Interface
 
    from unused TxD (Pin 2) and Ground (Pin 7) out the back
 
    of the circuit. This pair of wires will feed the RxD
 
    and Ground pins of another COMport on the PC.
 
 
 
 
 
=================================================================
 
05: How do I build or acquire a BETTER decoder interface?
 
 
 
First, understand that you may not need or want a "better"
 
decoder interface.  The 2-Level Data Decoder Interface given
 
just above is ample for most everything except "FLEX" and
 
ReFLEX" pager signals.  There may be other exceptions, but
 
they are few and far between.  In most cases, the simpler
 
2-Level FSK Data Decoder Interface will be all you need.
 
 
 
Secondly, understand that the more sophisticated 4-Level
 
FSK Data Decoder Interface cannot and does not replace the
 
simpler 2-Level version.  If you want the 4-Level interface,
 
that's fine, but you'll need the 2-Level, too.
 
 
 
  If you are not capable of building your own, or if you
 
  don't have the time to mess with it, I can supply either
 
  a Kit of all essential parts and detailed instructions,
 
  and you build it yourself,
 
 
 
  OR
 
 
 
  I can supply an  assembled/ tested 4-Level Data Decoder
 
  Interface, built inside a project box with a DB-9 output
 
  jack on one end and an RCA jack on the other end.  You
 
  will need to provide your own shielded cable terminated
 
  with an RCA plug on one end to mate to the box and
 
  whatever connector on the other end to connect to the NFM
 
  Discriminator Baseband Audio Output on your scanner.
 
 
 
  You will also need to provide a shielded straight-thru
 
  9-cond serial cable with a male DB9 plug on one end to
 
  mate to the 4LFSKDDI box and whatever connector on the
 
  other end to mate to the chosen PC serial port.
 
 
 
  You may also have to provide your own +/- dual polarity
 
  power supply. (Two 9v batteries can suffice.) See
 
  Question #9 for more details.
 
 
 
I'm not sure yet how to present the 4-Level FSK Data Decoder
 
Interface circuit as a plain ASCII schematic like shown above
 
for the simpler 2LFSKDDI circuit.  So for now, I have to refer
 
you to the Web Sites that support this circuit with graphics,
 
text, and/or software support.  You should research these sites:
 
 
 
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/6063/
 
http://www.qsl.net/pa3eik/4lev_fsk.htm
 
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4039/
 
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4039/PINFO.HTM
 
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4039/IINFO.HTM
 
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/4039/POCFLEX.ZIP
 
http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Lab/9339/
 
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/8916/4levelm.gif
 
 
 
I now have available a detailed Instruction Set on the
 
4LFSKDDI for those who find the above sites a little too
 
technical to handle. I can also provide Kits of essential
 
parts, less enclosure and power supply.  See Q&A #9.
 
 
 
==================================================================
 
06: So how do I decode digital data from the airwaves?
 
 
 
    First, you tap the Discriminator Output in your scanner.
 
    Then build the desired Data Decoder Interface and connect
 
    it to the Discriminator Output. Then connect the other
 
    side of the Decoder Interface to a com/serial port on your
 
    PC. Lastly, run the software that decodes the particular
 
    type of signal that you want to decode.
 
 
 
    In general, it takes different software for different
 
    kinds of signals, and I can't possibly cover them all
 
    here.  I will suggest that you start out with a free
 
    program called TRUNKER that decodes the control data of
 
    Motorola trunking systems.  This is one of the easiest
 
    to set up and get working; therefore, it makes a good
 
    test "platform" to prove up all your work before you
 
    venture into bigger and better things.  Motorola trunk
 
    systems are fairly common now.
 
 
 
    TRUNKER and a good set of documentation and limited
 
    support for it can be found at the following Web Sites:
 
 
 
    http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Lab/1060/beta.htm
 
 
 
    or
 
 
 
    http://web2.airmail.net/lblant1/dfw/digital.htm
 
 
 
    Apparently it is possible to decode certain kinds of data
 
    from the airwaves without a decoder interface - just
 
    software!  For info on decoding MDT signals with nothing
 
    more than a Windows PC and a sound card, check out:
 
 
 
    http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Facility/7646/
 
 
 
 
 
=============================================================
 
07: How can I decode CTCSS, DPL, and DTMF from the airwaves?
 
 
 
    That is strictly up to specialized hardware and/or
 
    software that kind of goes beyond the scope of this FAQ.
 
    Lots of software is out and about that will do it, and
 
    there are even possibilities for "roll your own"
 
    hardware decoders.
 
 
 
    But the first thing you'll need is the "baseband audio"
 
    output that is described in Questions/Answers #1-3
 
    above. The Data Decoder Interface described in Q/A #4 is
 
    good ONLY for trunking and pager types of data; not
 
    CTCSS, DPL, and DTMF, unfortunately.
 
 
 
    In fact, it takes specialized hardware and/or software
 
    to decode each of CTCSS, DPL, and DTMF; and each is as
 
    different as night and day.
 
 
 
    Some scanners come equipped for CTCSS decoding, but most
 
    do not. And none come equipped for DPL or DTMF that I
 
    know of.
 
 
 
    For more information about retrofitting CTCSS and DPL
 
    decoders to your scanner, contact:
 
 
 
      Communications Specialists, Inc.
 
      426 West Taft Avenue
 
      Orange, CA 92865-4296
 
      (800) 854-0547  Fax (800) 850-0547
 
      (714) 998-3021  Fax (714) 974-3420
 
      WEB:  http://www.com-spec.com/
 
 
 
    For a low-cost "roll-your-own" DTMF Decoder (hardware)
 
    there is a nice project done up in great detail in one
 
    of the back issues of the monthly WORLD SCANNER REPORT
 
    newsletter, V3N10. Backissues are always available at a
 
    nominal cost.  See:
 
 
 
    ftp://ftp.cts.com/pub/bcheek/products/prodinfo.zip
 
 
 
    There are other hardware and software solutions for
 
    decoding DTMF that I may include here later as I get the
 
    information verified and added.
 
 
 
    The WiNRADiO Digital Suite is awesomely capable of
 
    decoding CTCSS and DTMF.  See:  http://www.winradio.com
 
 
 
    For scanners in general, though, it all starts with a
 
    tap to the "baseband audio" point, so read over Q&A 1-3
 
    above for the details.
 
 
 
 
 
=============================================================
 
08: Is it possible to "TrunkTrack" without a TrunkTracker?
 
 
 
    It didn't used to be, but times change and YES! It is
 
    now possible to track the trunks without a 'real'
 
    TrunkTracker Scanner, and better, for that matter!!!
 
 
 
    Like the other subjects in this FAQ, it all begins with
 
    a Data Decoder Interface. See Q&A #4 and Note 10 in that
 
    answer for the tiny extra addition you need to make to
 
    the Decoder Interface.
 
 
 
    Next, you need a PRO-2004, PRO-2005, or PRO-2006
 
    scanner, although we hope to add other scanners to the
 
    list in due time.  For now, it's one of those three.
 
 
 
      NOTE: It is possible to track the trunks with a
 
            AR-8000 and perhaps with one of the Opto
 
            Interfaces, but these are specialized situations
 
            where detailed info must be found elsewhere.
 
 
 
    Then you need a CE-232 Scanner/Computer Interface (or
 
    its predecessor, the HB-232). You will also need the
 
    hot, new Windows program for the CE/HB-232 called
 
    Pro-Turbo.
 
 
 
    Lastly, you need one fairly modern computer, Pentium 133
 
    or better, for the easiest way to track the trunks, but
 
    there is another way almost as easy, if you have two
 
    computers, one a 486DX2/66 or better and the other, a
 
    PC-386 or better.
 
 
 
    There are other requirements, too, but the above are the
 
    main ones.  It is beyond the scope of this FAQ to spell
 
    out all the details, but the V8N9 issue of the monthly
 
    World Scanner Report tells it all.  You can order this
 
    or any other back issue of the World Scanner Report
 
    since Jan-91, including 6-mo and 1-yr subscriptions.
 
 
 
    You can also download a more detailed text file on
 
    TrunkFollowing with the PRO-2004/5/6 from my FTP site at:
 
 
 
    ftp://ftp.cts.com/pub/bcheek/ce-232/trnkscan.txt
 
 
 
    For more information on the Pro-Turbo software for the
 
    HB/CE-232, contact:
 
 
 
    Paul E. Turton
 
    RR # 3; Wainfleet, Ontario Canada L0S 1V0
 
    E-mail:  pturton@iaw.on.ca  or  jabba@iaw.on.ca
 
    Web:    http://www.iaw.on.ca/~jabba/pro-turbo.htm
 
 
 
    For more information on the CE-232 Interface, you can
 
    download a file called PRODINFO.ZIP from:
 
 
 
    ftp://ftp.cts.com/pub/bcheek/products
 
 
 
    or you can view and download all the individual files
 
    from the \CE-232 directory.  Or, you can ask for it as
 
    an e-mail file attachment from:  bcheek@cts.com
 
 
 
    or see the information in my signature box below.
 
 
 
    But yes, it is now possible to track the trunks without
 
    a TrunkTracker scanner, and do it better than any of the
 
    "real" TrunkTracker scanners!  The cost can be a lot
 
    less than the cost of a real TrunkTracker, too. The cost
 
    largely depends on what you already have, or can
 
    scrounge up, but at worst, it's well within the budget
 
    of many scannists.
 
 
 
 
 
================================================================
 
09: What if I don't want to build my own Data Decoder Interface?
 
 
 
    See further below if you are intested in a 4-Level Data
 
    Decoder Interface.  First is info on the 2LFSKDDI:
 
 
 
    2LFSKDDI
 
    ========
 
 
 
    There isn't much of a technical obstacle to "rolling your
 
    own 2-Level Data Decoder Interface, but if lack of time,
 
    tools, or access to the parts is an obstacle, then you can
 
    acquire one in either of two ways:
 
 
 
    NOTE:  We can supply the 2LFSKDDI detailed Instruction Set
 
          alone for $5, ppd, USA and $7, ppd, foreign.
 
 
 
    1.  Kit of essential parts (you build it):  $15 + $8 S&H
 
 
 
        Includes:
 
        3 ea  Capacitor; tantalum; 10-uF/16v:
 
        1 ea  D-sub Plastic Hood/shell; DB25
 
        1 ea  DB25 connector; female; solder pin
 
        2 ea  Resistor; 100-k; 1/4-watt
 
        1 ea  Resistor; 3.3-k; 1/4-watt
 
        4 ea  Diode; silicon; 1N4148
 
        1 ea  Op-amp; LM741CN; 8-pin DIP
 
        1 ea  Perfboard; pre-cut, notched, trimmed to size
 
        1 ea  Shielded cable; 3-ft; w/RCA plug
 
        1 ea  Detailed printed instruction set, complete with
 
              graphics, photos, tables, and "what if's"...
 
        1 ea  3.5" floppy disk w/shareware & freeware decoder
 
              programs and utilities.
 
 
 
        Optional upgrade or add-on items:
 
 
 
    *  A. Shielded cable; 6-ft; w/RCA plug        + $2.00
 
    *  B. Shielded cable; 12-ft; w/RCA plug      + $4.00
 
        C. Port Adapter; DB25 male-to-DB9 female  + $7.50
 
          (adapts 25-pin Interface to 9-pin comport)
 
 
 
    *  Instead of the standard 3-ft cable w/RCA plug
 
 
 
-=OR=-
 
 
 
    2.  Assembled/tested 2-L Decoder Interface    $40 + $8 S&H
 
 
 
        Includes:
 
        1 ea  Data Decoder Interface built into a DB25 shell
 
              with standard 3-ft shielded cable w/RCA plug.
 
        1 ea  Detailed printed instruction set, complete with
 
              graphics, photos, tables, and "what if's"...
 
        1 ea  3.5" floppy disk w/shareware & freeware decoder
 
              programs and utilities.
 
 
 
        Optional upgrade or add-on items:
 
 
 
        A. Built with  6-ft shielded cable and RCA plug  + $2.00
 
        B. Built with 12-ft shielded cable and RCA plug  + $4.00
 
        C. Port Adapter; DB25 male-to-DB9 female        + $7.50
 
          (adapts 25-pin Interface to 9-pin comport)
 
        D. Custom enhancements/designs per your specs    +$10/up
 
 
 
 
 
    4LFSKDDI
 
    ========
 
 
 
    CAVEAT:  It may be illegal to decode certain 4LFSK signals.
 
            You must determine that for your self and cease
 
            interest in the subject if not legal in your area.
 
 
 
    If you are intested in a 4-Level FSK Data Decoder Interface
 
    we have a detailed Instruction Set ready to go, as well as a
 
    Kit of Essential parts, less enclosure and power supply.
 
 
 
    Assembled and Tested units are not ready yet, but.....I may
 
    have available some built/tested prototype units that have
 
    been proved fit for consumption.
 
 
 
    One or more of the following may be available:
 
 
 
    1.  Instruction Set Only - you build from it.
 
        8-pages of hi-res laser printed text, charts,
 
        photos, drawings, and detailed, hand-holding
 
        guidance:  Price: $5, ppd, USA;  $7, ppd, foreign
 
 
 
    2.  Kit of Essential Parts, plus detailed Instruction Set
 
        from (1) above, less enclosure and power supply. See my
 
        4LFSK.FAQ file for details, or the following web site:
 
 
 
        http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bcheek/4lfsk.txt
 
 
 
        Price: $20 + $8 S&H, USA;  $20 + $15 S&H foreign
 
 
 
    3.  Kit of Essential Parts, incl power supply.    Price: TBA
 
    4.  Assem/Tested 4LFSKDDI, no power supply: Proto: $125 + $8S&H
 
    5.  Assembled/Tested 4LFSKDDI, incl power supply. Price: TBA
 
 
 
 
 
    TO ORDER:  Use e-mail, fax, or postal mail per the
 
              information in my signature box below. MC/VISA or
 
              M.O. preferred. Personal and company checks okay,
 
              but shipment delayed until bank clearance. No
 
              COD's and no shipments to PO Boxes or mail drops.
 
              Alaska, Hawaii and foreign shipping extra.
 
 
 
      TERMS:  All sales are final; no returns-no refunds. 30-day
 
              Performance Warranty on the Assembled/ Tested
 
              Decoder Interface is strictly limited to Motorola
 
              SmartNet trunked data signals using TRUNKER.EXE
 
              despite that it will work on many other kinds of
 
              data, too. We just can't support it all.  Repair
 
              or replacement at our option during that 30-day
 
              period. No warranty on Kits.
 
 
 
              Not responsible/liable for illegal use of this
 
              information and/or these products; nor for any
 
              consequences thereof. You must determine
 
              lawfulness of these products for your applications
 
              and region and not use them, if illegal.
 
 
 
              Use of this information and/or these products is
 
              100% exclusively at your own risk.
 
 
 
              You must determine suitability and fitness of
 
              purpose of these products to your needs.  I will
 
              not accept responsibility or liability for any
 
              damage or loss that results from use of these
 
              products, nor for damage or loss that results from
 
              connecting these devices to a scanner and/or a
 
              computer.
 
 
 
              You must determine all risks and accept all
 
              consequences of any damage to hardware and/or data
 
              stored in the computer.
 
  
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Revision as of 21:34, 21 July 2007

Overview

The current 1999 SCANDATA.FAQ article (updatd by WJP in 2000) was originally produced by Bill Cheek of COMMtronics Engineering in 1996.

Bill Cheek was a scanner enthusist and author of several books and articles on the hobby. This article was a compilation of the various aspects of the scanner hobby dealing with discriminator output or baseband audio; explainting what it was, how to use it to decode a variety of signals, where to find it in a number of scanners of the day and also how to identify the various chips that it might appear on if your scanner was not listed.

It also explains the use of a and how to construct a 2-level FSK interface (data slicer) and a 4-level FSK interface. Note that some of the parts used and specified in the instructions may no longer be avaialable; however, these circuits have been updated several times and can be found with specifications of currently available parts in several places on the WWW including the Data Slicers article in this Wiki.

Revisions

As this article, in its native text form, is a bit lenghty, we have broken it up into natural divisions so that it will more easily fit with the Wiki style of articles. Please note that we are leaving the text of the article intact in its entirety, but are dividing it up into logical sections. Also please note that the various URL's supplied in the article are probably not valid anymore as Bill Cheek died in 2000.

SCANDATA FAQ Article

Introduction

Mar 27, 1999       SCANDATA_faq       03/27/1999
Updated 09/23/2000   WJP

This article/file is for the benefit of all.

(c) 1999 (All Rights Reserved) by:
    Bill Cheek and -COMMtronics Engineering-

This file is for personal use only and may NOT be placed on
a CD-ROM nor any other media that conveys, stores, or
transports for any monetary cost including shipping &
handling, without expressed permission of the author. This
file can only be given away, absolutely free of charge, no
strings attached. If given away, it MUST be conveyed intact,
word-for-word with no editing, additions or deletions,
except as may be authorized in writing by the author.

                                   -Bill Cheek-
                                    Author

NOTE:  This Frequently-Asked-Questions (FAQ) file or article
       is one of a series of FAQs that I regularly publish.
       The complete list of FAQs is given below. If this one
       doesn't answer your questions, try one or more of the
       following additional FAQs:

1.  Scanner Modifications FAQ:  SCANMODS_faq
2.  Scanner Data Decoder FAQ:   SCANDATA_faq  <--- This FAQ
3.  Scanner Performance FAQ:    SCANPERF_faq
4.  Scanner S-Meter FAQ:        SCANSMTR_faq
5.  Scanner Radios FAQ:         SCANRADS_faq
6.  4-Level FSK Decoder FAQ:       4LFSK_faq
7.  Administrative FAQ:            ADMIN_faq

You can grab the latest of any of my FAQs directly from my
Web site as follows:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/bcheek/faqs.htm
=============================================
Bill Cheek's Scanner Data Decoding
Frequently Asked Questions File
=============================================

Contents

Questions and Answers

  • Q1: What is a 'Discriminator Output' and 'baseband audio'?
  • Q2: How can I find the Discriminator Output in my scanner?
  • Q3: How do I connect to the Discriminator Output?
  • Q4: How do I build or acquire a SIMPLE decoder interface?
  • Q5: How do I build or acquire a BETTER decoder interface?
  • Q6: So how do I decode digital data from the airwaves?
  • Q7: How can I decode CTCSS, DPL, and DTMF from the airwaves?
  • Q8: Is it possible to "TrunkTrack" without a TrunkTracker?
  • Q9: What if I don't want to build my own Data Decoder Interface?

Conclusion

============================================================
That's it for now.  I will keep this FAQ updated.  If you
see things that need to be added to it, by all means, let me
know. If this FAQ fails to address your question(s), then
hit me with 'em again, but be specific.  And be detailed
with symptoms and observations if you need tech support on
mods or troubleshooting and diagnosis.  Use e-mail.

Copyrighted (c) 1999 (All rights reserved) Revised 03/27/99

------------------------------------------------        --
Bill Cheek - President/CEO/Publisher            \      /
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